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 Post subject: WHY
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:47 pm 
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I have not posted here for quite some time; however I have to ask the question WHY does CYA find it necessary to follow David to his new forum and go through the hassle of having him shut down. I do not understand.
No matter what happened in the past, he had no right to do that. From where I sit & I am sure to many it shows insecurity and very petty behavior. I know that is who done it, because before I posted here I wrote to the mainstream adminstrator of where David had his forum.(confirmed)! Is it jealousy?
People will come if they trust you to your forum, but that alone shows lack of faith in yourself Cya. If all of you think David is such a bad person, why bother to reply to ANY of his post. Why go through the trouble of having him shut down. All you have done is take away the FREEDOM OF CHOICE, which is unfair. You would not like it done to you.
It is very clear to many, that there is a HUGE VENDETTA that some folks think needs to be paid over and over again.
You said for him to get over it & move on. He tried, you had him shut down. He post, you bash. When will it all stop ! It is a two (2) way street people everyone can see it. It is down right cruel and unfair for BPU to continue this behavior if you ever want to be respected by FUTURE players in need for help.

As to AOL tracking. You can not log in here using AOL.(only as guest) and that is occasionally. It has been blocked. This was Microsofts explanation. It is so a site can keep tabs on players from their portal. AOL is set up to stop this from happening. I know I have AOL & asked them myself. I also tracked my portal through my own firewall to show where it begins & ends via BPU. So, my conclusion is, BPU has set itself up to be able to track all comings in & goings. Seems quite insecure & petty to me, unless of course there is more to your reason for doing this that I am unaware of. I certainly can not figure out why you would bother.Who cares how many names someone has or tries to use, you have the right to REFUSE. Many players have AOL, they may need help. They can't use you unless they are a guest. All of what I said is true, So I simply ask WHY ?

:-k ............................. [-X It has got to stop sometime, before everyone gets ruined by bitterness (EVERYONE!) and the players will then have NO CHOICE LEFT. I actually think that is why it was all done in the first place. to deter players to BPU [-X Well, it doesn't make you look any better, just so you know.

I am not going to reply to any bashing or name calling or nit picking.
It was a fair & honest question. I did not bash in any way. I simply called it like I saw it, and investigated on my own before posting.
You may very well have good intentions, but the pettiness will ruin you.
All people have to do is read. Mary says (chickenshits) WOW! Didn't think that followed the forum rules & guidelines.. But it is acceptable?
/////////////////////////////////////////////////leaning to 1 side a bit much.
The rules need & should APPLY TO EVERYONE PERIOD! They haven't so far. Maybe it's high time you start.

I tried to be fair to both many times, you made my decision a bit easier when I found out what lengths you would go to ruin someone. As well as track their privacy. By the way, I did NOT use AOL to log in it would NOT allow me. Cya told me this long ago. He was right then, and he knew why.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:18 pm 
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Hello I Been There,
Nice to see you. I thought I would try to answer a few of your questions. I cannot answer them all as I do not have the information you asked for.
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WHY does CYA find it necessary to follow David to his new forum and go through the hassle of having him shut down.


I first, would like to tell you that CYA has been gone for better than a week without use of a computer. I am most certain everyone knows him well enough to know had he been here, he would have spoken.

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I know that is who done it, because before I posted here I wrote to the mainstream adminstrator of where David had his forum.(confirmed)! Is it jealousy?


I will answer your question first about the jealousy. No, and I will speak for the rest of our team, I do not believe we are jealous. I can't think of one reason why we would be anyway. I am where I want to be and trying hard to do what I set out to do and that is help bingo players be aware, as are my colleagues.

As far as your "knowing who done it", I have already told you that CYA is now and has been gone with no access to a computer for over a week. You may post your response from said administrator if you choose.

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If all of you think David is such a bad person, why bother to reply to ANY of his post.


I made myself perfectly clear where I stand with David at WOL, all can read it by following this link.... http://mb.winneronline.com/showthread.h ... 241&page=3,
it will be item #29.

I know that neither, I nor any of my team mates here have EVER gone to David's forum (the one closed), or the new one either for that matter, and posted one single post. None of us even registered.


Sure we talked among ourselves on a daily basis about what was happening there, BUT, we stayed here, TRIED to mind our own business and in the meanwhile, to fend off petty little posts in our forum that were meant for nothing other than to keep trouble brewing.

Not one time did any one of us come there and downgrade or belittle or even disagree with whatever you were doing in your forum. Quite honestly, I don't care. It isn't worth my attention. Understand that is nothing personal toward you. That was then and still is now, YOUR business.

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You would not like it done to you.


Our team does not like a lot of things being done to us. When we get knocked down, we will get right back up and try to do it right this time.
We are going to have a trial and error period where issues are concerned. That makes us only one thing, HUMAN.

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You said for him to get over it & move on. He tried, you had him shut down.


I would respectfully ask you to post proof of this allegation.

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When will it all stop ! It is a two (2) way street people everyone can see it.


I am ready for it to stop yesterday! Sounds like you are too. Yes everyone can see it. We are trying very hard not to hide anything . I can't speak for other forums, just ours.

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As to AOL tracking. You can not log in here using AOL.(only as guest) and that is occasionally. It has been blocked.


I am not going to say this is untrue. What I am going to say is that , the moment I read your statement, I went to AOL and logged in with absolutely no problem. We do not have AOL blocked. This is a fact.
Sorry you had trouble.

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So, my conclusion is, BPU has set itself up to be able to track all comings in & goings.


I am the "new kid on the block" here and am not as computer savvy as a lot of you, but I honestly thought that was common practice in forums.

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All of what I said is true, So I simply ask WHY ?


I am sure you believe what you are saying is true, but PLEASE, read this like I write it, with no hidden meanings or inuendos....part of it simply is not true. These points I have brought to your attention.

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I actually think that is why it was all done in the first place. to deter players to BPU Well, it doesn't make you look any better, just so you know.


You have every right to think what you want to I Been. We are not trying to "look good".... we are TRYING to work for what started out being a common goal.

As of yet , we have not instigated one single "attack" that has gone on here. What we have done is defend ourselves against attacks that should have never been brought here in the first place.

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The rules need & should APPLY TO EVERYONE PERIOD! They haven't so far. Maybe it's high time you start.


That, we (you and me) can definitely agree on. We make rules here that we think are fair. Time will tell. If we ever have cause to review and change them, I am sure it will be taken care of.

Please know that sometimes, one can be "needled" enough that they do one of two things... crawl in a hole or strike back. If we do not put each other in that position, those times will blow over.

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I am not going to reply to any bashing or name calling or nit picking.
It was a fair & honest question. I did not bash in any way. I simply called it like I saw it, and investigated on my own before posting.


Nor am I. To this day I have neither been rude, nor called you a name, nor bashed you in any way. And I am not doing that now.

We have never had a problem and hope we never do.

I tried to answer your questions the same as you asked them...like an adult and a fellow Watchdog who, above all this other, STILL have the same goals in common.

I hope I have been helpful to your request as I have answered to the best of my ability.
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Sissy


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 Post subject: Re: WHY
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:32 pm 
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I BEEN THERE wrote:
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All people have to do is read. Mary says (chickenshits) WOW! Didn't think that followed the forum rules & guidelines.. But it is acceptable?
/////////////////////////////////////////////////leaning to 1 side a bit much.
The rules need & should APPLY TO EVERYONE PERIOD! They haven't so far. Maybe it's high time you start.


This one I feel I have to answer. Yes I did allow myself to be goaded into saying that. Not too many people take being called a nimrod very well, and I am no exception. But I must point out that the rules do apply to me as well. That is why you will find that post in Kicked to the curb. I am no exception, so there I am. I am not proud of it, but I will have to get over it. After all, I recall you tearing me quite a few new ones yourself, before they were deleted by admin at OBN. Time to move on, admit temper got the better of us and leave it alone.
Cyalater will return from holiday soon and can post a reply to you himself concerning your accusations against him.


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