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 Post subject: Reminder of why NOT to play at BingoVega OR CasinoVega!!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:40 pm 
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It doesn't matter how long ago any of the following happened. What matters is that they DID happen and most or all issues NEVER got resolved. For all we know it is still happening on a daily basis!

BingoVega still ignores attempts to contact. They STILL ignore owing players money! And they are STILL in business... do your part to send them down the road bingo players............. DO NOT PLAY AT BINGOVEGA OR CASINOVEGA!


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Bingo Vega is not recommended and if you decide to deposit money there you probably will never be able to cashout. There are many bad words said about Bingo Vega.
They have numerous complaints and have the most ridiculous excuses for not paying.
Just check out bingo related forums and you will find many interesting testimonials about this rough website.


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Wild Heart

BingoVega is notorious for staling payouts. About 2 years ago I had a $1000 payout request. It took them a month to pay me two $500 payouts. Once I finally received all I was owed I emailed Mike the hallmanager and told him to close my account. He replied back asking why, I told him straight out I don't play at sites that take a month to payout $1000.


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bigbcasinos

OK

I am going to take an unusual step here and refer you to a bigger forum where I am a partner and not sole owner. I meant this forum to handle mostly SA Player complaints, questions, or suggestions but in this instance, the other forum has a host of really experienced webmasters and players. I think that Bingo Vega have been blacklisted for a while. They used to have a decentish reputation when they were part of a growing network that included Planet Poker and more but I have heard nothing but negatives in the recent past.

Please go to http://www.gamblingindustryassociation.com/forums/

You will find a lot of knowledge there especially as regards known offenders. We may just get lucky and find someone who knows which buttons to press to get answers to this.



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mathilda
I won close to 4000$ at CasinoVega a few weeks ago and now they are refusing to pay me.

They say that I have shared IP with another player, which is not true.

What can I do?




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Redneckwoman
i used to pla bingo here which is called bingovega. they have both casinovega and bingovega and you sign up once to play on both. i quit cuz it was where the same ppl was winning all the time just 3 or 4 evr nite would win and it was like pulling teeth to get ur winnings. i got tired of fightin with them over every thing so i found a better place tht pays more on pots and not the same winners nite after nite. i would tell ppl to stay away from casinovega or bingovega.....whichever name they choos to call it. that place su@@s!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:


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gmeplyr
Hi mathilda,

I am in the middle of a simular dispute with Casino Vega.


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joeyl

Re: CasinoVega withholding my winnings

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If Parlay won't step in, and the Gambling Commish won't either, then they're all as bad as each other.

That is of course if the cases are genuine.

I have no problem making the Gambling Commish know they are no use to the player when firms they license and tax take liberties, or allow liberties to take place via their products.

The difference is, it won't be long before the Gambling Commish's hands off regarding player complaints "policy", if that is the case, which from what i've read in the past is the case somewhat, to hit some small news outlets in the UK press.


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And if you've miraculously jumped through all the hoops… don’t think that you’re home free: you’re not, by a long shot. The last two lines of casinovega’s 'House Rules' are:

“Management reserves the right to refuse or close any account at their sole discretion”, and

“All rules and regulations contained herein are subject to change without prior notice”.

That is their license to steal, and I can assure you that it’s a well worn one.

Be careful out there, and on your “Do Not Play at all costs” list, be sure to add:

Casino Vega, Bingo Vega & Planet Poker – You Can Never Win!

I’d like to thank the fact finders that helped me put all of this together.

From us to you: you’ve been honestly warned.


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mikepipe

i tried to make life simplier: And therefore decided to belive the player!
Its not a question of multiple accounts, but of multiple excuses.
Next one will be: " well, yes, at first he didnt meet the WR, but then we discovered muti acc.s
And this can be topped by: Ok, ok, we agree, he met WR, he had only one account, but he deposited in € and not in finnish marka.
well- and finally the ID-theme with another 196 variations.

i tend to quote CM (once more): Avoid ... at all costs!


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vinylweatherman

Toss em in the pit,

From their site:-

Casino Vega is a division of B.G Entertainment N.V, an International Business Corporation registered in Curacao. Our servers are located in London England, in full compliance with all local rules and regulations. Patrons of Casino Vega can also play their favorite bingo games at our partner site Bingo Vega.

Either they are lying, or they are going to get a visit from Scotland Yard

They use "Parlay", same as Winwood Casino, and are "approved" by the "Internet Gaming Commission"


Here'a another rogue trap.

"In order to receive a cash out, a player must have deposited a minimum of $25 within the last 14 days."

This is a problem because, well, of the balance in the account is above $25 you cannot deposit at all, and thus could only comply with the above term by losing everything unless the previous deposit was made recently.

The terms for everything are against the text with a "click here" EXCEPT for the 200% sign-up bonus. Using the "site map" is the only obvious way of finding these little beauties, and they are not called "terms and conditions", but "casino policies".
I have been unable to find any mention of WR for the 200% bonus, and arguments about currency are irrelevant, since all play is tracked in dollars in any case.

Most definitely one to be avoided.


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i joined this so i could let you know DO NOT play at bingovega! i played there a long time and as long as you d not want to withdraw it is ok. if you want to withdraw, they make it almost impossible. their is noting good about this place


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dolly44996
bingo vega is a big ripoff, i have won over 11,000 and they wont pay me. they have given me every excuse possible. i won 8,000 two monthe ago they were suppose to pay me 500 a week i recievd 1,000 thats it. then i just won another 6,000 now their saying i didnt make a deposit in the last 30 days, so how can i make a deposit when i have 11,000 in my account. i contacted floormanager and accounting all their doing is giving excuses. i am sick of bingo vega, if anyone can help please let me know ty. dolly44996@sbcglobal.net


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tend2digress
DON'T DO IT! I signed up and read the terms and conditions before I completed my registration. I won $1750 and after that was told that you can't withdraw any winning from the free $20 no matter how many times you play it through and that in order to deposit your account must have less than $25. I contacted live help asking for them to email me the terms and conditions for the free money and deposits and they would not do so. I'm assuming because they are constantly changing them and there is no REAL document outlining them. They should be held accountable for this scam they are running and shut down for good.
I have my live help chat transcripts for review if anyone desires to see the excuses I was given.




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fatback46
this is sad that an organization would take people's hard earned money just to manipulate the game for a given few is pretty low. they need to be concerned with the long haul than the short the future is online ganbling and word of mouth is the best advertizement in the world i suggest you take good look at your site and make some much needed changes


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po3571
I initially thought the site was good until I attempted to withdraw.

The withdrawal was rejected as I had not wagered enough. Apparently for my $25 deposit I had to wager $2,750! Lets face it even if the jackpot was this high I would of had to just spend it because it cant be withdrawn.

The reason I have to wager so much is because 1 time I had a few spins on the slots which are on the same bingo screen. This means the usual 5 x your deposit does not apply.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:28 pm 
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This is a reprint of a Post at GPWA: http://www.gpwa.org/forum/archetype-evi ... 69014.html Players need to be reminded, from time to time, just how corrurt this site is!
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The archetype of an evil Casino

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With credits to my friends at the Online Players Union:




The archetype of an evil Casino

For describing an Evil No-Pay online casino, we’ve chosen a true existing, working model.

There is more than one Evil casino on the Internet, and we have chosen one in particular that possesses all of the traits; thus we present you the very epitome of an Evil No-Pay online casino: casinovega.

This casino exhibits all traits of an Evil one; it’s in rare occasions that we find all traits under one roof. This one has it all. Also beware the rest of the family:

BingoVega & PlanetPoker: also rotten to the core.


Ok, what are the main traits of a No-Pay online casino operation? We'll begin with:

The casino falsely claims to be operating since 1999.
The casino uses a phony licensing certificate.
The casino spams, and you can’t unsubscribe.
The casino uses shills on forums.
The casino has rules that can’t be found on their site.
The casino has many complaints going on at any given time.
The casino uses various rules, in various areas, making players err, and disqualify.
The casino locks accounts and keeps deposits, unless the media get into the act.
About the casino’s Fun Mode play.
If all else fails…
They reserve the right to change rules and lock accounts without notice.


The casino falsely claims to exist since 1999.

Our group of experienced players could not find any cached traces previous to 2002.

The casino uses a phony licensing certificate.

On the Casino Vega’s home page, at the bottom, you will see a false credential, which is worded so: “This site has been approved by the Internet Gaming Commission”. Now just open a Google page, and write in, or paste in: Internet Gaming Commission, exactly, and see what you get: - the very same that we do - yes, it's pure BS.

The casino spams you continuously, and you can’t unsubscribe from their junk.

If you open an account with casinovega, in Real Money or Play Mode, you will be swarmed by spam from them directly; at the bottom of the spam emails you will get: “To Unsubscribe, visit: 404 Error - Page Not Found this gets you to a casinovega page where it says "404 Error - Page Not Found".

But - there is no error, and this is an actual page created for this purpose. In other words, you can’t unsubscribe: you'll be taken to that tailor-made bogus page forever; once on that page you'll find a convenient "Please click here to continue browsing the site", and that takes you to their Home Page. This type of duplicity is not new, and some rogue RTG casinos already use this ‘technique’. See below for the simple solution.

The casino uses shills on forums.

Shills are always funny, as their M.O. is always transparent. WOL had the visit of a BamaLisa, no longer visible on their members list, obviously for being banned. Here’s for your entertainment, and hoping that you'll enjoy:

WINNERonline Gambling Discussion - Casino you can count on!!. After being told off often, that er had the balls to deny, and kept it going, up to a page 4, with 13 posts! Jetset did sum it up thus: http://mb.winneronline.com/showthrea...4&page=4&pp=10, after Mary, which is none other that “The Original Mary”, proceeded to ‘deconstruct’ the er, on that last page’s first post. It would not be out of the question that the ‘floor manager’, Mike himself, was BamaLisa’s true identity : ) And why not read the whole thread: it’s good for a laugh, because everything else about these thieving creeps is sordid: stealing money is a felony where I come from, and probably you too.

The casino has rules that can’t be found on their site.

Did you know that any amount that you deposit, in order to play without the obligations of wagering requirements, is subject to a ‘15 times playthrough’? You wouldn’t have known, because that’s not on the site – we know of some that were fooled by this – don’t be a victim! I’ve also seen other numbers than X15 posted elsewhere – of course, anything can be changed without a notice, anytime… see their ‘cover all’, ‘do as we please’ rule at the end of this post.

I also recall some player (that’d be in one of the selected posts' links) that every time he thought he had met requirements, and checked with CS, he was always told that he had much more to wager – on every occasion; a case of the ever-increasing requirements at each phone call; a very sad old trick used on me at one time; but that’s in the past, and with different rogues.

The casino has many complaints going on at any given time.

Before playing at an online casino, a player owes himself to research it. In this case Google comes in handy: just enter casinovega+complaints, or casinovega+no pay. Most of the following have been found in this way, and we could go on and on, with more searches with different wording, and even with a different engine:

WINNERonline Gambling Discussion - CasinoVega withholding my winnings
http://www.bingoplayersunion.com/viewtopic.php?t=892
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0&fpart=1&vc=1
http://www.forum4gamblers.com/post-2...bf697c8d0da790
http://www.bingoadvantage.com/views/...site=vegabingo

The casino uses various rules, causing players to err, and disqualifying.

The complexity begins with having 3 specific weekdays in which to withdraw. If you cashout on one of the ‘wrong days’, beware: your balance will be returned to your account, and you won’t know about this unless you check, and ask them ‘what’s up?’ The assortment of scenarios where the player will be tricked, from ‘unique’ rules spread out in diverse, and far apart areas throughout the site (for that very purpose!), are too many to name them all. We’ll just take some of their unique rules, and let your imagination create a wide range of scenarios where the player will get screwed. Your wildest made up scenario has probably happened at some time!

One rule has 19 countries banned from play, yet all of them are available when signing up.

One rule has it that you can only cashout if you’ve made a deposit of $25, 14 days prior to a cashout (with no doubt more wagering requirements attached), and another rule has it that your balance must be less than $25 in order to make a deposit! By all means peruse all of the pages – and sub-pages of casinovega.com - and you will come to the same conclusion that we did, and alas, especially the victims who played there: You Can’t Win!

The casino locks accounts, keeping deposits, unless the media gets into the act.

We don’t doubt for a second that this poor excuse for a casino does keep all lost deposits from players who disqualify; as for those who win, it seems to be the same: they just use one of their 1001 rules, lock accounts, keeping deposits, unless the media gets involved:

CasinoVega dispute

About the casino’s Fun Mode play.

Please note: this is from one person only, me, having played less than 100 hands at Blackjack in Fun Mode. I begun with the balance of $20, and placed my bets, ranging from $1 (the minimum) to $5, and I’ve reached the amount of $100 quickly and easily – just too quick and easy, in this online BJ player’s mind, to be real.

Again, this is one Fun Mode player’s account only. Since the whole site is full of booby traps, it wouldn’t be a surprise if Fun Play was on a different program than Real Play! It’s been known for fact that Elka Systems, later renamed Oyster, did in fact offer a Fun Play where everyone would win easy, only to cheat players with biased software in Real Play.

Thus, only if many others come to the conclusion that Fun Mode is such that they all will win ‘too easily’, could we begin to establish yet another of casinovega’s dirty tricks. I invite you to try them in Fun Mode – we might be on to something – just don’t deposit a damn penny! Also, you will experience getting the emails from which you can’t unsubscribe (!), but the solution’s easy enough: just ban the email's origin.

And if all else fails,

And if you've miraculously jumped through all the hoops… don’t think that you’re home free: you’re not, by a long shot. The last two lines of casinovega’s 'House Rules' are:

“Management reserves the right to refuse or close any account at their sole discretion”, and

“All rules and regulations contained herein are subject to change without prior notice”.

That is their license to steal, and I can assure you that it’s a well worn one.

Be careful out there, and on your “Do Not Play at all costs” list, be sure to add:

Casino Vega, Bingo Vega & Planet Poker – You Can Never Win!

I’d like to thank the fact finders that helped me put all of this together.

From us to you: you’ve been honestly warned.


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