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 Post subject: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:07 pm 
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AFTER POSTING HERE ABOUT THE SAME WINNERS AT BINGO HALL..AND HEARING YOUR ANSWER TO MY COMPLAINT,,I DECIDED TO GIVE THEM THE BEFIT OF THE DOUBT,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.....YOU ALL NEED TO CHECK THEM OUT...........STILL SAME WINNERS DAILT,, ALL DAY LONG,EVERYDAY.....NOW ITS WORSE,,,,,,,,,,,,,SAME JACKPOT WINNERS..........1 PLAYER 4 TIMES IN 15 DAYS,,,ANOTHER 3 TIMES WITH A TOTAL OF OVER 30 GRAND WON,,,AND THEN THE USUAL JP WINNERS ...AM I STILL WRONG????? I THINK NOT....UNTIL BINGO HALL IS INVESTIGATED I WILL BE LEAVING WHEN MY LAST DEPOSIT BONUS BBS ARE GONE,,,,AND I MADE A DEPOSIT THIS MORNING,,,AND NOT 1 WIN ... ADIOS BINGO HALL


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:04 pm 
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I am defintely willing to check them out.. especially since they are on our approved list. Like I said before about the same winner syndrome.... there has got to be an explanation for it. It happens at too many places.

It would be helpful if, since you are there and playing, if you could get us a link the the lists of winners, or even keep notes in your notepad. I know they use Parlay software so you can go back to the time you logged in to see who won what games.

I can tell you this.. after going into different player accounts that have had issues here, I have seen that those who max out DO win more, BUT not enough more to explain this. When I was chat hosting, I saw players who would win VERY often for a day or maybe two, but I also saw the DAYS & DAYS some into weeks when these same "frequent winenrs" could barely win enough to keep them afloat.

Please understand that I am in no way, attempting to belittle your complaint as it is THE main complaint of all online bingo sites IMO. But I am saying that most of us look too close at what players win because that is right there for us to see. What we don't see is what they spend or lose in trying to be a winner.

Another thing about BingoHall I have noticed is that their average player amount is over 50 per game, in the quarters room. It would seem that winning multi JP's in that kind of player base would be tough, at least in a "lucky" sense of the word. And this is supposed to be all about luck isn't it?

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I will bring this post to Malci's attention and I am sure she may have some words for us.


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 Post subject: SIMILAR THINGS ARE HAPPENING AT GONEBINGO.COM ALSO
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:54 pm 
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Similar things are happening at gonebingo.com. I checked back there again today and same winners that were on prebuys 3 days ago are still on prebuys and still winning, and a lot of other bogus stuff. I really think they are a scam. I think they need to be investigated also. :-k


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 Post subject: bingo hall
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:56 pm 
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As I have imed you on this Sissy, I do want to report in forum a fewobservations regarding jps.
Dec 31st 2 players won twice each. One totaling a win of 17,561.04
The other player won on the same day a total of 4192.28
With the number of people playing in the majority of games, I simply have to wonder how often this happens.
As I am sure it is normal for many to wonder along the same lines. Luck is always a part of gambing, be it good or bad, but so iscommon sense and curiosity when the bad or good occurs enduringly or exceptionally.
I can not attest to the longevity of this "luck" because I have not observed long enough to make a decision whether I, personally, would call this a "lucky streak" or a " get out now" consideration.
As far as players spending larger amounts to win that is never noted or included when they win constantly....That is really not my business as another player what they spend or I would have access to each players purchase reconcile, what concerns me is that specific people are spending vast amounts( if that is what it truly is) and that alone eliminates me as the average or minimal player from having a reasonable chance of winning. Some sites are go in big...or dont go at all. Each player has to look at the circumstances of every game, and if it is out of your league, in any way, find another site. When you see maxing out going on as a general rule of the site spending, if you are not a high roller,get out of there. Dont wait for luck to spin on its heels for you. NOT going to happen!

note: I edited this page for the amount of win on a player. I forgot one of the wins. The total is correct now as reported by the BH winner list.

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 Post subject: Bingo Players Complaint Corner
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:53 pm 
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I don't think there is a site that doesnt have same winners or lucky streak syndrome anymore, it doesn't matter which site you go to. A player that is savvy can sit and almost predict who will win 5 out of 10 games if you play at a site long enough.

Bingo has evolved in the last few years with sites getting more sophisticated with their software so what was once enjoyable is losing some of its charm. If you see the same players winnng all the time and you feel something is not right then it is time to move on.

As players we are getting more aware of the signs to look for and it does my heart good to see that our members and guests are becoming aware and reporting these things in the forum.

I applaud you all keep up the good work.

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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:14 pm 
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I too have played a few sites. Get tired of the same one all the time.
Same winners syndrome happens at most. I see it alot when a newbie shows up. They win to get sucked in. So take a break because the oldie,, high ranks on deposits, been supportive of the site, seem to get lost in the shuffle.
I have seen roomies win several games every hour and do this day after day. It gets many upset. But lets face it online bingo is meant to get you hooked let you win a cple so you keep coming back.
One of my favorite sites is going through this now. So gonna take a break.
It is very disheartening to go thru it. So if youwant to play bingo online, get ready to spend alot, win some and watch the wave pass you by.
goes with the territory, not right but thats the way it is.
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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:07 pm 
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JUST THINK THIS IS BS,,WHEN YOU KNOW WHO IS GOING TO WIN BIG JPS AND PROMO GAMES
....CHECK OUT WINNERS LIST EVERYDAY AND PROMO LIST


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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:08 pm 
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I still cant figure out the mindset or psychology behind posting a winners list that contains nothing but repetitive winners. Could it be that it is presented to make a prospective depositor think they too can win like that? There are houseplayers on the lurk at EVERY site, be it an automated avatar or a bonus player or a begging bonus perk receiver under the wing of "loyalty benefits". We do not know what goes on behind the scenes of online bingo as far as administration goes. They do not have to follow their own rules...because they have the option to change them without notice. We do not know most of the players personally, nor do we know if they are playing with actual cash or bb's. Being "real" in online bingo merely means presenting a name or alias that shows up in chat or on a winners list.
Onlline bingo CAN be a haven for money laundering, but it is ALWAYS primarily a huge money maker for the owners,investors and software developers. Where does all this money come from? YOU...the depositor and funder, so it will behoove you to take a good look at a site before you pay for entertainment and what some laughably call "fair gaming" in this industry.

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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:52 pm 
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Yes I know shooterguy.
You can check out the contests and specials and yest the same winners are on them alot.
I was getting at was if you think your gona win alot of money, think again. I heard one gal who won alot of bbs say she can't accept them because her withdrawels were much higher than her depoes, so she hadn't deposited for quite awhile.She went on to win about 7 out of 10 games. I about puked, as some of us deposit day after day and don't cash out, some have all the luck.
Weren't too many happy in that chat let me tell ya.
But once again no one forces us to deposit. I for one have to step away.
good Luck shooterguy, but when you see this happen out in a help ticket and tell them how unhappy you are about same winners and you are done with their site. See what happens and let me know.
Gambling against software can be tough, and the site can say they have no control isn't as accurate as they say.
I will beg to differ that one.
Ok let me know shooter, what the site says lol
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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:48 pm 
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Has there been a time when you ight have made a remark in a bingo chat that is meant to infer you were losing all the time, or you didn have any luck? There IS always someone that will remind you it is gambling, if not a player , then the chat host.
Lets get this staight..it is gambling for the PLAYER! The site ( any site)does not expose itself to the probability of an abundance of losses. You do not get bb's. player loyalty bonuses, or any other perk if you have won too much or your deposits are less than your wins. THAT in itself compromises the "fairness" or the gambling ethic without including their rules and policies that are designed to give the house a total edge. The players gamble, the sites only gamble is if they can draw enough depositors and keep them there...depositing and depositing in the hope of winning a jackpot dangled like a carrot in front of a hungry jackass.
If everything were truly under the umbrella of gambling the sites would have to take the chance of actually losing....and that is NOT going to happen.

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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:09 am 
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LOL sometimes it is SO much fun to sit and watch some posters here do nothing but speculate and share their opinions OVER and OVER! Show some Proof!

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The site ( any site)does not expose itself to the probability of an abundance of losses.


Once AGAIN.. some members of BPU recognize the fact that players are GOING TO PLAY online bingo. Personally it is MY job as a volunteer advocate to guide them in directions that will protect them as players. I learned a long time ago, I cannot make them see a reason NOT to play.. so I help them in the best ways I can.

I also do not understand why SOME cannot see that the online bingo games are NOT a search to win a fortune for many many players. It is a place where they spend their own money as they choose for whatever reason they choose. It is not up to me to judge those who exercise their personal freedoms, but to show "cracks in the concrete" for those who are "walking blind".


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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:15 pm 
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show some proof?????? Shall I go gather the winners lists from enough sites to show that ALL sites have same winner syndrome? I think the seasoned player is already aware of that!
It is merely speculation on why this happens because players do not have access to software machinations. Can anyone supply proof that there are no house players or manipulation of software? I think not!
If a forum does not allow speculations, opinions and personal thoughts concerning any agenda related to the subject, what is the point?Proven facts start with speculation, hypothesis and instinctual feelings. This is not basic math with a concrete formula, it is a subjective, freewheeling entertainment with variables stipulated by individual bingo sites. All we CAN do is guess why certain events occur that seemout of the realm of possibility or statistical history. Offer me some proof that a person that wins over and over on a daily basis in a never endng "streak" does not have an edge of some sort. Offer me someproof that there is no manipulation of software by sites.
Offer me some proof that every alias you see in a chat room is an actual player.Offer me some proof that a bingo site is not a hotbed for money laundering. Every bingo site claims to be fair, and some even claim bogus overseers that monitor their policies and play. Where is the proof?
I beleive the burden of proof should be placed on the gaming site that is offering "fair" entertainment, NOT a prospective depositor who has a right to question and "speculate" on that fairness. One would think that might be in a bingoPLAYERSunion forum...huh?

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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:13 pm 
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Reading everything above sure makes it hard to believe that one would ever win in most sites. It's unimaginable that the "lucky streaks" go on for days and days. It also makes people nervous about putting money in a site without fine toothcombing the rulles and regs about withdrawing.

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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:05 am 
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Yo have that absolutely right princess! Check out everything you need to know about the game operation before you give them your cash.
Someone is going to win an someone is going to lose in any gambling format..that is a certain outcome, and the only one you can be sure of. With online bingo you have to be certain that the winner is able to keep the money..in case it is you.
As far as big spenders going days without winning..LOL some players celebrate a win a month. NO ONE forces them to deposit large amounts in the expectation of winning large amounts.That is what a bingo site would like you to beleive. Many promos are now just based on whoever spends the most will have a chance at winning some promo amount.
Let me say something about that... LUCK is not respective of the amount you spend..Not real luck. Every bingo game is an independent event, not hinged on the next game, the one before or the amount you have deposited at site.Since when does luck check out your reconcile or deposit history to see how much you have invested? Why do frequent winners think they have a right to win simply because they have made many deposits if it is all luck? Of course buying more cards and playing more often increases your odds of winning, but then we are crossing over into the realm of statistical probability which corrupts the concept of pure luck. Players that spend mucho bucks in online bingo do win more,but when they dont win for a day or so,it becomes a tragedy. What about the smaller player that spends their cash too and rarely wins and has to hear the jibing remarks of other roomies and chat hosts telling them well,it is gambling". I think that is an appropriate remark to tell the big spender that is hitting a dry spell..a simple reminder that they too are gambling so stop whining about not hitting your usual 10 to 15 games a day or better.When you spend a lot, the possibility should exist that you could lose a lot also, deal with it! LOL

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 Post subject: Re: BINGO HALL FIXED
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:17 am 
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I'm glad to hear that you agree with me dynamitewoman. However, can anyone really be sure that the rooms are ever legit. You might be playing in one room at a time and it's hard to know what is going on in the other rooms. I only play for entertainment and can't afford to put in big money so I guess I have to expect to be losing almost all of the time and by the time I make a win it doesn't cover my initial cost so I would be silly if I were to re-deposit to live up to the sites expectations so that "someday" I MIGHT be able to withdraw.

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