Finally learned in an OBN post said:

I totally agree with Ibeenthere (aka Missy):

I have been a watchdog for years and I always felt the best thing that could happen is that the Industry police and clean itself up, without government regulations. God only knows they have had the time to do it! But this never happened! Crooked sites have always controlled online Bingo! It seems from the inception of Online Bingo, the name of the game was cheat as much as possible to make profits.

Bingo Players ( honest people) were always the marks of corrupt sites! So it became the norm that if you opened a new site, cheating was acceptable, be it by House players or some other House Advantage.

The majority of the Industry has always been “Screw the players Even today with well over 700 sites the number of really honest sites can be counted on your fingers. Just about all sites have some kind of House Advantage going for them. Bottom line here is can a player expect to treated fairly at the majority of Bingo Sites? The answer is NO!

So how do players find these sites that cheat them? You just need to go to your big affiliate sites and click on one of their banners that sends you to sites like Zany Bingo.

Bingo Affiliates have been as much as a problem to bringing down the bingo industry as the crooked sites they represent. If Americans can’t play online bingo any longer, I would be pointing my finger at Affiliates that support and advertise corrupt sites. Missy’s statement says it all:

They sure did! But their complaints always reached deaf ears. From the Affiliates point of view, they were not doing the cheating, so why should they get involved? That is how the majority of the really big Affiliates allowed the Bingo Industry to get as corrupt as you see it today. They were not acting in the people that support them interests! It became all about $$$$$ and the sense, that I’m not really cheating them, so and so site is! I just have to look away and collect my monthly check!

From where I sit! If online bingo goes down the tubes and Americans can no longer play remember the big Affiliates like [Professor and Dominique] at the CAP Forum, who could have made a difference in the industry, but chose to only add to the problem. The justice in this world will be to see their Affiliate Incomes go to zero.

Its too late for sites like OBN to be asking for player help! We have been asking for your help for some time, and never received any! In the end you will get what you deserve!

This post is at OBN and I wanted to respond here, where I know we can speak our minds. I will respond to the parts I think interesting only as it is very long.



The sad part is that you THINK we don't understand what is going on. WE DO!



AGAINST PLAYERS RIGHTS???????????????? Let me ask you this... do the online bingo sites GIVE A DAMN about players rights??? Read any rules anywhere at any online bingo site and you will see that these sites do not care about players rights. It is all about the sites and what they want. I, personally, would rather have online gambling made illegal as a whole than to continue fighting a battle with bull headed, narrow minded bingo site operators who don't even have the freakin class to respond to player issues in open forum. Being silent will finally cost them, as they could have had way more support had they given any at the times they were needed.



No this is not ENTIRELY about dishonest bingo sites.. I know I am adult enough to realize that and feel many more are also. My opinion is that IF it takes this law passing to stop these sites from abusing paying players, cheating them out of their money in many different ways and ignoring pleas and requests to be treated fairly....I AM FOR IT ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!



There may be one but I have yet to find a "good, honest site"! And believe me there are not many I haven't tried. They all have rules that are ridiculous, but you obey them or don't play. Crooked sites have "flourished" far too long , in my opinion and again...I DO NOT CARE WHAT IT TAKES TO STOP THEM. Also, in my opinion, regulation would have given them the opportunity to once again "change their rules without prior notice" to accomodate their way of insuring they take honest players money in one way or another.



And please understand THIS... those of us who have joined the Watchdog movement have tried, begged, pleaded for the affiliates and sites to be fair to players. We have worked long hours. We have done research, read rules, listened to those who have been cheated and tried in any way we can to help them.

This may not be about house players or crooked sites as a whole. But I see it as a "means to an end". I am willing to vote for just about anything that would stop innocent paying players from being manipulated, forced to follow ignorant rules IF they want to play and being treated like they do not exist when a problem DOES arise.

I can only speak for myself on this issue. If I had to choose one or the other... and it seems that making online gambling illegal or online pay to play bingo (which IS gambling) to continue with things as they are, I would vote FOR the banning of online gambling.

I do not know about any other kinds of gambling on the net as I all I ever gambled at was online bingo and their inner games (slots-pulltabs-keno), so that is all I can speak on this issue about.

The government has NOT taken away my right to play these games. I have EXERCISED my right not to play them BEFORE the government became involved. These sites have had YEARS to treat their players fairly. I would love to see them have to live with the same rules they have presented to their players. MY WAY OR NO WAY.

To all those crooked sites who have ripped off players in even ONE of many ways they use and find themselves in a NO WIN situation should this law pass and become effective.... WELCOME TO OUR WORLD!!!